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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2012, 04:08:30 PM »
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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2012, 04:26:55 PM »



First of all, Try not to insult or abuse others via the forums.

Second, You are basically telling us, following canon as a CP unit is 'ruining citizen rp' perhaps Hl2RP is not for you then in this case. Notice in Half-Life 2, how strict, how 'ruining' the CP's were of the citizen's 'rp'. There are MANY things to do in the plaza, to do anywhere. Searching for weaponary, items and Resistance groups is what District 6 homes these days.
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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2012, 04:27:46 PM »
My opinion on this, as a unit, is that these groups, with shotguns and SMGs running around everywhere, flourish in D6 because we never do sweeps anymore. The citizens even come out on top of the D6 wall, wave their guns around and scream, then run back into the tunnel knowing that we cannot follow. We need some sweeps if not only to show that we are still the dominant power in the city, because at the minute, it just looks like were sharing half the city with the lulrebels, vortigaunts, and even the unofficial resistance groups are starting to roam D6 with weapons and vests out. I suggest at least one sweep every day at the very minimum. We have the manpower, we have the time, we just don't have the authorization.

I love you for this suggestion and I +SUPPORT it. Many times when I get on my unit, the Plaza is empty. Why is this? Its because everyone has figured out they can also have guns and a life of danger in D6, where the CCA can't ever go (except maybe once every 6 months on average). People would rather go get their guns and walk around like a bad ass in D6 than actually spend time doing passive RP under the harsh rule of the CCA where everyone is literally scared shitless to even mention the word, "Resistance" out loud.

I'm going to give my honest opinion on what I think about no one being able to authorize sweeps but Rofl or Raiden. I'm not saying it matters, I'm not trying to force it on anyone, I'm simply stating what I think, which doesn't actually change, or mean anything. Rofl get's on the HL2RP server maybe 30 minutes a week to play a SYNTH unit, and that's about all anyone hears from him. Raiden, I've only ever seen get on the HL2RP server twice. From what I understand, Raiden lives in the Oceania time zone, so that would explain why I've never seen him on, but because they're never hardly on, no one has easy access to get a sweep authorized. Awhile back, a lot of people complained about the frequent D6 sweeps. In my opinion, they were being whiny bitches because they'd finally get their hands on a pistol or something, and then D6 would get sweeped and they'd lose it. Then they'd come on the forums and post about how mad they were that sweeps were happening weekly. Due to this backlash, it was made that Rofl and Raiden were the only ones who could authorize sweeps, knowing they would probably only authorize 1 out of every 30 requests, if even that. I can't count the number of times a D6 sweep would have created some really good RP for both the CCA, and the citizens in D6 but couldn't happen because Rofl or Raiden never answer anyone over Steam, or just say no to the sweep because they didn't want to hear about the bitching from the citizens who would have died because they decided to shoot at the CCA units.

As Riemer said, there's no fear in the citizens. No one is afraid to say the word, "Resistance" out in the open, and they shouldn't be. The CCA only has control over the Plaza, and partial control over D2. Lolwebuls literally run D6, and the CCA can't do a damn thing about it because Rofl and Raiden don't want to deal with people complaining anymore. The server is setup so that players can't do anything about people doing whatever the hell they want in D6. Just as Riemer said, citizens can get on top of the D6 HAP, wave automatic weapons in the air, fire off shots, hell even fire off shots at units if they want. They could throw 500 grenades in the damn plaza if they wanted to, just as long as they're able to sprint back to the D6 tunnel before a unit can catch them or shoot them, and the CCA can't do a single thing about it. The way things are now, lolwebuls could attack the Plaza anytime they wanted and just run back to the D6 tunnel to reload and regroup, then attack again, then run back, ect. Nothing could be done about it and they know it. That's why people go straight to D6 all the time and the Plaza stays empty 60-70% of the time.

I played on a server for a few days before I found Catalyst and the citizens there literally wouldn't even mention the word Resistance outside, or be seen talking to anyone who asked about it. Someone reported a citizen and I for talking about resistance forces in a very quiet location and we were both beaten unconscious on the spot, drug to a cell, left inside for awhile, and when we woke up, we we're beaten unconscious again and drug out and throw into a pile of trash. We got lucky that was all that happened to us. After that, I knew why no one ever went against the Combine on that server, or even breathed the word Resistance. I was literally scared of being caught snooping around about it. Eventually, we had some really good RP in which units pursued me and a group of citizens into the slums area of the map and found us and pretty much executed us all right there.

I just think too much is left in the hands of administration here at CG. Sure, some players are irresponsible and shouldn't be making big decisions such as when to sweep D6. At the same time, there are plenty of players who ARE responsible and capable of knowing when to authorize and how to handle a D6 sweep. I just think it was made that Rofl and Raiden could only auth sweeps because they never planned to authorize them anyway. That way, it makes it look like there's a chance you could get a sweep authorized, but in reality, Rofl and Raiden are pretty much always going to say no. We got to do 1 D6 sweep about two-three months ago to find a Vortigaunt. That was the best RP experience I've had in my history of HL2RP. What's so bad about allowing even just the admins and ops that play on the HL2RP server? Are they not responsible enough to know when its okay to authorize a sweep? You have to be a pretty damn good RPer and make a name for yourself to even get the chance of being thought of as a possible admin or server op, how much better and more responsible do you need to be to know when its not such a bad idea to sweep D6? Why can't some system be thought of and approved where you need at least 2 DvL's or a CmD+ to authorize a sweep of D6? Its ridiculous that the SeC is supposed to have command over the entire sector, yet he's technically not allowed to keep control of D6. The SeC is basically the Darth Vader of the CCA, he can kill an OfC if he wants without a second thought or hesitation, but he can't authorize a sweep of D6? Bullshit, complete and utter bullshit.

D6 sweeps create really good RP for both units and the citizens who walk around with guns in D6. Something needs to be thought of so they can authorized more realistically. What makes HL2RP fun is the concept of trying to survive under such a harsh government rule. Currently, no one is afraid of the CCA really. D6 sweeps would change that.

+Support for a new authorization system for D6 sweeps, and more frequent D6 sweeps.

After the "No guns in the D6 tunnel" rule was put into place, myself and another unit were shot at while dealing with an issue at the D6 HAP. The citizens proceeded to run back down the tunnel and take cover at the end and fire back at us once more when we moved to the tunnel entrance. Obviously, people aren't obeying this as they should be.

I don't want to ruin CitizenRP at all either. I've never told a group of citizens to isolate, never, because I know it ruins passive RP for citizens. I can't speak for other units, but don't immediately judge my actions based on the actions of others, and then call me retarded. I'm not trying to make my RP, or unit RP, better than citizen RP in anyway. If I was a citizen living in D6, I'd support D6 sweeps as well for the sake of the interesting, fun, action RP it creates. If you don't want to be detained or shot, hide from the units that sweep it. That sounds fun to me.

Going back to groups of citizens talking about random subjects in the Plaza, they're usually told to isolate because from my experiences, 3 out of 5 groups of citizens talking in the Plaza are talking about and planning to jump a unit for their guns. I've seen it happen, numerous times, yet I still don't say a damn thing to a group of citizens talking on the off chance that they're actually just doing some good passive RP.

I'm going to be the more mature, bigger person and not insult you as you have insulted me, but don't accuse me of things just because you've seen other units do them. The units going around telling groups of citizens to isolate are the recruits and 04's who just got their units and want to go around trying to feel bad ass. That doesn't mean every unit in the CCA is going around doing it, because most of the higher ranking units are actually exceptional RPers and know not to. Believe it or don't, I don't care.
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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2012, 04:30:31 PM »
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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2012, 04:33:30 PM »



Actually, the food the CWU gives out is UU branded, which means its chemically altered to keep the citizens barely alive and weakened. That's why non UU branded food and consumable items are not allowed.


First of all, Try not to insult or abuse others via the forums.

Second, You are basically telling us, following canon as a CP unit is 'ruining citizen rp' perhaps Hl2RP is not for you then in this case. Notice in Half-Life 2, how strict, how 'ruining' the CP's were of the citizen's 'rp'. There are MANY things to do in the plaza, to do anywhere. Searching for weaponary, items and Resistance groups is what District 6 homes these days.




The food the CWU gives out is UU branded, which means its chemically altered to keep citizens weak and malnourished, but alive. That's why non UU branded food isn't legal.
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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2012, 04:38:38 PM »


Just because I was talking about them didn't mean I was talking about you and your group. I was thinking about having a nice PassiveRP session with you and your Safe Haven but your fucking idiotic behaviour changed my mind.
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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2012, 04:40:52 PM »
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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2012, 09:44:14 PM »
Hey everyone. How about a nice cup of shut the fuck up? I feel deeply offended by you people, so get ready for a flame fest. READ AT YOUR OWN DIGRESSION!  I AM GIVING YOU FAIR WARNING, SO DON'T BAN ME!

Honestly, I think this Resistance RP in the city needs to come to an almost-complete hault. I mean, we're talking about citizens running around with shotguns, in the city. If the combine are so powerful, why are they letting these people running around with shotguns and SMG's full of ammo? All they would have to do is sweep a few times with OTA and you pretty much fixed that problem, but they can't seem to do that.

So your saying I shouldn't have my shotgun just because the combine are o so powerful? Are you fucking kidding me? Do you know that the people with guns are almost compleatly wiped out? I am the only civi with a shotgun (On the city server). You say that I "run around with shotguns". Please do yourself a favor and die. I, along with a group of friends, set up the Safe Haven. We provide a lot of Passive RebelRP. It's not lolwebuling, we do Passive RebelRP. Oh and fyi, I don't go around saying "Let's kill a fucking combine111!!!" That's the other people in my group that wanna do it, not me. So really, go kill yourself you dumb cunt. Get a re-fresh of what is going on now, a lot of changed. You are still thinking it what was going on a few months ago (When I wasn't even a rebel on any char).

Pshh, they even let us citizens have no man's land (District 6), where we can wander around freely from any Combine rule.

Oh really? Did you happen to notice that you have the possibility to get mugged in there? It's your choice to enter D6, no one else. And if you didn't notice, I set up the D6 Police. So I occasionally patrol D6 and look out for muggers, and if I find one, then I will deal with them. Oh and, Dexter (The guy who would RP his RDMs on people at D6), got perma-banned. So you won't have to worry about getting killed.

It's disappointing, really, everytime I get my character mixed into some resistance stuff, they always bring up "business" as the No. 1 thing. And guess what the business is, yep, that's right, killing CPs and getting their guns.

Read what the fuck I said above, then come back. (P.S. It's about Passive Rebel RP)

Resistance RP needs to be a lot more secretive, not like open rooms dedicated to the resistance, but hushed whispers in apartments and perhaps the odd holstered 9mm, not walking around showing your guns off just because sweeps are so damn hard to get authorized. Be realistic.

I agree on "Resistance RP needs to be more secretive." I will work slightly harder on not taking out my shotgun, as it would be more realistic.

My opinion on this, as a unit, is that these groups, with shotguns and SMGs running around everywhere, flourish in D6 because we never do sweeps anymore. The citizens even come out on top of the D6 wall, wave their guns around and scream, then run back into the tunnel knowing that we cannot follow. We need some sweeps if not only to show that we are still the dominant power in the city, because at the minute, it just looks like were sharing half the city with the lulrebels, vortigaunts, and even the unofficial resistance groups are starting to roam D6 with weapons and vests out. I suggest at least one sweep every day at the very minimum. We have the manpower, we have the time, we just don't have the authorization.

fyi, I am not one of those dumbshits who run up to the D6 wall, wave around my gun and yell, then run back. And if you haven't noticed, Over the past few months the people with guns have greatly declined. I am the only civi with a shotgun (On the city), as for the people with SMGs...Some fucktard gave two new players SMGs. I could tell they were new by their RP skills, they didn't use basic grammar at all. It really pisses me off because they also put a reflection on me, as people will say in general "NOOBS GOT GUNS, PEOPLE FLASH AROUND THEIR GUNS, ect". So if there could be a place on the forums where you had to fill out some sort of flyer, and if you didn't fill it out after a certain date, you would get your gun taken away. The new players don't generally look on the forums, thus, they would get weeded out. And possibly if there was a flyer, it would ask how long you have played at CG, and if you don't meet the requirements, then say by by to your gun.

We must weed out the lolrebels to make way for the actual rebels. Agreed, there should be way more D6 sweeps.

Sir, please do EVERYONE a favor and kill yourself. The admins are already weeding out those lolwebuls anyways, + people with guns generally don't go around wanting to kill CPs 24/7. So please, leave this thread.



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I support sweeps in D6. It just doesn't make any since to me that the Combine wouldn't be able to go into D6 every once and awhile. I think having sweeps occasionally will create interesting RP.

I find it funny that you support the Combine not being able to do anything about the anti-citizens in their own city. The Combine wouldn't just let a bunch of anti-citizens live freely in their city because they might convince others to join them, along with the fact that they disrupt order. I don't think that sweeps should be so frequent that anti-citizen RP is completely stopped, but it should be discouraged ICly by the Combine.
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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2012, 09:47:24 PM »
Stop flaming. You guys can argue without insulting eachother.
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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2012, 12:19:36 AM »
I support D6 sweeps. D6, as it is, is a mess of comfort. Though, the positive thing to this is that my character is less afraid of CPs, in D6, and more of gangs like the Fourth Reich.

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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2012, 12:24:51 PM »
I support D6 sweeps. D6, as it is, is a mess of comfort. Though, the positive thing to this is that my character is less afraid of CPs, in D6, and more of gangs like the Fourth Reich.

This is just the problem with the lack of D6 sweeps. You can have a citizen live in D6 where you don't have to fear the CCA, but maybe other unofficial rebel groups. HL2RP is more about living in fear and even secrecy (if you're going to play a rebel character) than it is of living in fear of citizen created groups. I'm actually glad you said what you did, because its brought me to a great point.

Why should a citizen be afraid of another citizen created and citizen ran group? They shouldn't, because these "Rebel" groups run by and made up of citizens aren't supposed to be out there mugging, killing, and beating up their fellow citizens just trying to survive. They are supposed to be supplying their fellow citizens trying to survive outside of Combine rule with food and water, and making sure they're safe. Not threatening to kill them if they get in their way, or robbing them of food and water and killing them. That's the job of the CCA. If citizens are afraid of other citizen created rebel groups more than they are the CCA, that just goes to show you what's actually going on in D6. Also, it pretty much gets rid of the need for the CCA if you think about it. Why do we need a group with uniforms and guns and authority to uphold laws and keep citizens in line if there's a bunch of groups of citizens in D6 doing pretty much the exact same thing? Why not just get rid of the CCA and give the Nexus and the rest of the map to these rebel groups, since the citizens fear them more than they do us?

I'm not being serious, of course, but I'm making a point here. The CCA is feared less than a group of citizens are in D6. If the CCA was able to do sweeps of D6 more often, there wouldn't be rebel groups running rampant in D6 killing citizens and robbing them and making them fear them and citizens would think twice before running in front of a unit for once maybe.

People don't seem to understand that HL2RP and HL2 in general is about surviving as a citizen under the rule of the Combine. The Combine enforce harsh rules and regulations and monitor EVERYTHING to ensure they have full control over everything citizens can access and do. The way citizens must go about forming any sort of "Rebel" group is through high secrecy and strong trust bonds between each other. Even if they manage to form a group, their objective isn't to fight the Combine, isn't to kill units, isn't to hurt their fellow citizens, isn't to get weapons, isn't to get armor, or anything like that. Their objective is to make surviving easier by relying on each other and try to secretly help their fellow citizens by supplying them with food and water and even shelter. A member of any resistance group should never  stand out in the population. When you look at a group of random citizens, you shouldn't be able to tell the difference between a loyalist and the leader of a rebel group. Why? Because a real, true rebel RPer doesn't walk around with guns on their back, or act like a bad ass, or try to intimidate anyone, or go out of their way to stand out at all. If anything, they try to blend in and even disappear as much as possible. A true rebel group should be near impossible to even find on the server. That's how well hidden they should be. Not walking around with guns and threatening their fellow citizens to gain respect or be feared. Like I said, that's the job of the CCA.

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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2012, 02:42:17 PM »
About a week ago, I asked certain someone why are there no D6 sweeps. I have been told that they were happening too often and killed all resistance on the server, and from that point, they are happening very rarely. But why? I am in CCA for month and something, and I didn't see a single D6 sweep. People mingerun into D6 when they are being chased by us, because they know they are safe there. Because they know we can't go to district six. They are then laughing in OOC. This gets me often to rage. This should change. There are several people who are known that they don't abuse their privileges, why don't you give them authorizations to initiate D6 sweep? It is not so hard to handle. Get the sweeps logged, and set some fairly comfortable timespan between sweeps. One week? Or even two? Still better than infinity.

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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2012, 02:47:13 PM »
This is just a flame war. If you guys cannot talk without yelling at each other then this will be locked.
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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2012, 03:18:07 PM »
You do realize that there is a very small amount of people with guns?

what a joke, last weapon report i made there were 209 citizens with guns, and that number is still increasing

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Re: Whiney Wannabes
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2012, 04:04:30 PM »
You do realize that there is a very small amount of people with guns?

what a joke, last weapon report i made there were 209 citizens with guns, and that number is still increasing

The last time I saw another citizen with a gun was...2 weeks ago?

I support D6 sweeps. D6, as it is, is a mess of comfort. Though, the positive thing to this is that my character is less afraid of CPs, in D6, and more of gangs like the Fourth Reich.

This is just the problem with the lack of D6 sweeps. You can have a citizen live in D6 where you don't have to fear the CCA, but maybe other unofficial rebel groups. HL2RP is more about living in fear and even secrecy (if you're going to play a rebel character) than it is of living in fear of citizen created groups. I'm actually glad you said what you did, because its brought me to a great point.

Why should a citizen be afraid of another citizen created and citizen ran group? They shouldn't, because these "Rebel" groups run by and made up of citizens aren't supposed to be out there mugging, killing, and beating up their fellow citizens just trying to survive. They are supposed to be supplying their fellow citizens trying to survive outside of Combine rule with food and water, and making sure they're safe. Not threatening to kill them if they get in their way, or robbing them of food and water and killing them. That's the job of the CCA. If citizens are afraid of other citizen created rebel groups more than they are the CCA, that just goes to show you what's actually going on in D6. Also, it pretty much gets rid of the need for the CCA if you think about it. Why do we need a group with uniforms and guns and authority to uphold laws and keep citizens in line if there's a bunch of groups of citizens in D6 doing pretty much the exact same thing? Why not just get rid of the CCA and give the Nexus and the rest of the map to these rebel groups, since the citizens fear them more than they do us?

I'm not being serious, of course, but I'm making a point here. The CCA is feared less than a group of citizens are in D6. If the CCA was able to do sweeps of D6 more often, there wouldn't be rebel groups running rampant in D6 killing citizens and robbing them and making them fear them and citizens would think twice before running in front of a unit for once maybe.

People don't seem to understand that HL2RP and HL2 in general is about surviving as a citizen under the rule of the Combine. The Combine enforce harsh rules and regulations and monitor EVERYTHING to ensure they have full control over everything citizens can access and do. The way citizens must go about forming any sort of "Rebel" group is through high secrecy and strong trust bonds between each other. Even if they manage to form a group, their objective isn't to fight the Combine, isn't to kill units, isn't to hurt their fellow citizens, isn't to get weapons, isn't to get armor, or anything like that. Their objective is to make surviving easier by relying on each other and try to secretly help their fellow citizens by supplying them with food and water and even shelter. A member of any resistance group should never  stand out in the population. When you look at a group of random citizens, you shouldn't be able to tell the difference between a loyalist and the leader of a rebel group. Why? Because a real, true rebel RPer doesn't walk around with guns on their back, or act like a bad ass, or try to intimidate anyone, or go out of their way to stand out at all. If anything, they try to blend in and even disappear as much as possible. A true rebel group should be near impossible to even find on the server. That's how well hidden they should be. Not walking around with guns and threatening their fellow citizens to gain respect or be feared. Like I said, that's the job of the CCA.

Yea, I agree with you on some parts. I don't lolrun into D6 because I never even enter D1 in the first place because I am scared that the CCA will catch me. Sure it is kinda twisted, but it is a start.



All in all. If admins don't start posting here some more, putting some input in, supporting stuff, then nothing is going to happen. It's going to be the same old thing. If you bring back a lot of sweeps, people will bitch, then it will go back to this, then back to that. A never ending cycle.
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